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From: Ken Kotoski Date: Wed Jun 20 23:02:16 2001 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Hi Annette and all, I had been following this and was only going to add a little but since installing the new version of eudora, and it really messed up my email programs, I have not been able to look up the previous messages. I'm sure most of you have said most of the things I am going to say here but I thought I should mention a few and add my two cents! I'll start with the investing and work towards the casting. When investing it is important to use the exact ratios as stated by the investment manufacturer. Too little water and too much will cause many problems you don't want. The investment while being mixed goes through a mechanical and chemical change. So it needs to be wet enough for these changes to take place but not too wet. The reason there are a couple of suggested ratios for investment is so you can find the proper one for your conditions. That is the first consideration the second is the finish on your cast pieces. the more water you use the rougher your surfaces. the less water the smoother the surface of your castings. The more water the less strength the investment will have because the water is 'pushing the investment particles away from each other. You lose the mechanical bond. Too little water and now you lose the chemical and mechanical bond. Unless you build a room that is sealed and the environmental conditions are completely controlled you will have variations in your investment mixes from day to day and season to season. Humidity and temperature changes all the time so it will affect your mixing. There is a lot of trial and error that goes on in this until you have cast enough to instinctively know what is needed and when. In our shop we had gas heat and swamp coolers for cooling. We went from the heaters removing almost all moisture in the air to having very high humidity during the summer! This has many effects not only on the investing but other steps in the whole process as well. The majority of moisture should be removed at the lower temps. Again if the times are not long enough the moisture will not be eliminated. The lower temps are for melting the wax out and eliminating moisture. As the oven temp is raised the purpose is to bring the flask slowly up to total burnout temp. and to burn the wax and eliminate moisture. Your top temp. is to completely burnout the wax (organics). If the lower temps are rushed the wax will not melt out completely and the moisture will not be eliminated. When the moisture is heated it will expand and evaporate. If the moisture is still in the flask it will expand and break up the investment. If the wax has not been completely melted out it will tend to penetrate into the investment creating a barrier for the moisture and preventing the moisture from leaving the flask. There will be a small amount of wax that penetrates into the investment no matter what you do. Steam dewaxing reduces this the most. One practice we used was to invest using exactly the recommended ratios for the investment. Then set them to harden for about 30 minutes. We used a steam dewaxer to eliminate the wax. After steam dewaxing the flasks were set out to dry for about an hour. Then placed in the oven. the first temp. on the program was 150 degrees F. and it was held for 1-1/2 hours. then the temp was brought up to 300 degrees F. and we set it to take 30 minutes to bring it up to this temp. Then it was held for another 1-1/2 hours. And so on. The first couple of temps., times and ramps are critical as are the last couple. The temps. times and ramps in the middle are important but not as much. They are mainly for burning the wax and bringing the flask up to temp. Again you don't want to rush these as this could also cause problems. We used flasks ranging in size from 2" diameter up to 6" diameter. All in the same ovens and all with the same burnout program. The only time we had casting problems was if someone mixed the investment wrong or sprued a piece too close to the edge of the flask or at the beginning of a season. The ovens were electric and we were switching to gas kilns for a better burnout. The gas kiln will allow a faster burnout because it can remove the wax and moisture so much faster and it gets more oxygen into the cavity so combustion of the wax takes place more completely and faster. However a gas kiln is not for everyone. You are right in that you need to get all the moisture out of the flasks during burnout. But the moisture should be out by the time the flasks are ready to cast. The rule of thumb is to hold the high temp. - usually 1300 to 1350 degrees F - for one hour for every inch of diameter on the flask. Then to get the entire flask to casting temp you will need to do this again. The casting temp. is usually 1000 to 1150 degrees F. These numbers are not exact because there are too many variables that can change them. We were casting sterling and 14 KY gold. For stone in place casting the temps were much lower and the times were much longer. So for the rule a four inch diameter flask needs a 'soak' time of 4 hours. A 2 inch diameter flask needs a 2 hour soak. The length of the flask isn't important. The reason for the soak time is the entire flask will not get to the oven temp if this minimum time is not reached. So even though your oven is at a temp it doesn't mean your flask is. And even if the outside of the flask is at temp the inside may not be if the oven has not been held at the specified temp according to the rule. From this you can see that there should not be any moisture left in the flask if they are soaked for the proper times and temps. So if you are using something and sticking it in the door to see if there is moisture condensing on it the burnout has been way too fast and you may have problems that can be easily eliminated by extending the length of the burnout. One thing I didn't see anybody say in the postings and I may have missed, was when taking the flask out of the oven be sure it is taken out the way it is in there. For instance: if you have the flasks in with the spur opening facing down pull the flask out with the spur opening facing down then tip the flask very slightly and blow across the surface where the spur opening is. Do not blow into the opening! What you are doing is getting rid of any loose material on the investment so it won't fall into the opening when it is turned over. Some people will brush the surface to get the loose material off but it still will need to be blown off. Also when turning the flask over watch the opening closely. If you see anything fall into the opening turn it upside down again. If it doesn't come out your out of luck. There isn't much you can do about it. One thing I want to mention here is the fact that investment is very hazardous to your health. Please make sure you have very good ventilation and when mixing investment and handling the flasks whenever possible wear a respirator even if your have plenty of ventilation. When getting a respirator make sure you get one that fits properly If you don't know the proper procedure for test fitting I can help with that or as much as I hate to say it call OSHA. Also take a breathing test to see if you can work with a respirator. Do not use one unless you take a breathing test. Heavy smokers won't pass a breathing test! So if you can't pass the breathing test don't invest. Hire someone who can wear a respirator do the investing. Your life and health are worth the cost of these safety items. By the way the investment you see is not what is harmful! Anything you can see if you breath it in you can breath it back out. The harmful stuff is what you cannot see. These particles are not respirable (you can't breath them back out). When you get these in your lungs they stay there forever. They are very sharp and stay that way. When they land on your lung tissue they will cut it and as you breath they cut again and again. What ends up happening is that your lungs don't heal where these particles keep continuously cut them. So when you have enough build up of these particles in your lungs the lungs build up some scar tissue and are at the same time being cut up repeatedly. This reduces your ability to get oxygen into your blood. Eventually you will die from this. So let me say this again. Your life and health are worth the cost of these safety items. There is more I could write about burnouts, investing and casting But if unless this has raised any questions I'll stop here. The hardest part of casting is experience. You can't buy it unless you hire someone with it and you can't get your own without doing the work. Which means a lot of trial and error sometimes and a whole lot of research. Good luck with your casting and remember if at any time you need anything let me know. Were not here to just sell equipment and repairs. I'll answer any questions anyone might have even if it means sending you to buy from someone else. Honesty is better than making an unhappy customer. Ken Kotoski MPG Repair www.mpgrepair.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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